this represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> so i understand you correctly, this information was likely collected exterm to the country of which it may is been reported in defense of operations op going in the world in which nato participates; is that correct? >> that is correct. >> huh, and so let me ask you this. as you study the networks of the world and talk about european union for a second if i may. is it possible for chinese intelligence services, military or otherwise to use networks that you find in any nation states in the european union? >> absolutely, chairman. >> how about russian intelligence services. is it possible they use communication networks, computer networks inside the european union for what nay are up to? >> absolutely, chairman. >> how about al-qaeda? could they use, possible for them to use networks found in the european union to conduct planning operations or execution of operations? >> could absolutely, chairman. >> and would it be in the purview of the national